Openings 1.d4 Nf6: Indian defenses
Old Indian Defense (2...d6): Setups, English Rat and Stats
2...d6 prepares ...e5 without putting the bishop on g7 as in the King’s Indian. Black plays ...Nbd7, ...e5, ...Be7 and ...c6 for a solid, slightly cramped position that is hard to break.
A53Old Indian Defense
Games from this position (1600–1999): 17k
- 1.
- 2.
| Move | Played | Games | White · Draw · Black |
|---|---|---|---|
| 79% | 13k | ||
| 12% | 2,112 | ||
| 4% | 637 | ||
| 2% | 269 | ||
| 1% | 245 | ||
| 0.7% | 112 | ||
| 0.6% | 95 |
Plans for both sides
White
- Nc3, e4 and Nf3 take the center; Be2 and O-O are natural.
- Against an early ...e5, dxe5 dxe5 trades queens and leaves Black’s king in the center; d5 gains space instead.
- Expand on the queenside with b4 and c5 once the center is closed.
Black
- ...Nbd7, ...e5, ...Be7, ...O-O and ...c6 is the classic setup.
- You can still switch to a King’s Indian with ...g6 and ...Bg7.
- The queen trade after dxe5 dxe5 Qxd8+ is not bad for Black: the position is level.
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Old Indian Defense at each rating
How often the position after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 d6 comes up in rated Lichess games, how it scores and what players answer next.
| Rating | Games (Share of games) | White · Draw · Black | Top next move |
|---|---|---|---|
| <1200 | 2,114<0.1% | 3.Nc356% | |
| 1200–1599 | 8,9570.2% | 3.Nc369% | |
| 1600–1999 | 17k0.3% | 3.Nc379% | |
| 2000+ | 8,2990.4% | 3.Nc377% | |
| All | 36k0.2% | 3.Nc375% |
What usually comes next
The most played moves from here, all ratings together. Thicker line = played more often.
Main variations
The classic Old Indian setup. White has more space; Black follows with ...Qc7, ...Re8 and ...Bf8.
Too rare in our data for numbers.
Show on the board: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 d6 3.Nc3 e5 4.Nf3 Nbd7 5.e4 Be7 6.Be2 O-O 7.O-O c6White trades queens at once. Black’s king stays in the center, but with no queens there is little to fear.
576 games from this position (all ratings, any move order). White won 41%, 7% were drawn, Black won 52%.
Show on the board: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 d6 3.Nc3 e5 4.dxe5 dxe5 5.Qxd8+ Kxd8White closes the center and plays on the queenside; Black prepares ...Nbd7 and ...Nc5 or ...f5.
Too rare in our data for numbers.
Show on the board: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 d6 3.Nc3 e5 4.d5 Be7 5.e4 O-OThe same idea without ...Nf6; the queen trade is again harmless for Black.
1,800 games from this position (all ratings, any move order). White won 41%, 8% were drawn, Black won 51%.
Show on the board: 1.d4 d6 2.c4 e5 3.dxe5 dxe5 4.Qxd8+ Kxd8Black develops the bishop before ...e5. White scores about 54% after it, a little better than usual.
Too rare in our data for numbers.
Show on the board: 1.d4 d6 2.Nf3 Bg4 3.e3 Nd7 4.c4 e5
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At club level
White answers 2...d6 with 3.Nc3 about three times in four. After 3...e5, the most common reply is 4.dxe5, and White scores only about 49% there. The English Rat (1.d4 d6 2.c4 e5) is similar: White scores about 47% at 2000+.
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Related openings
- Indian Defense: 1.d4 Nf6
1.d4 Nf6
- King’s Indian Defense
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6
- Nimzo-Indian Defense
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4
- Trompowsky Attack
1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5
- Budapest Gambit
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5
- Grünfeld Defense
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5